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Louise
18 Mar 20:02
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judymoo (LINUS)
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Judy, I’m not sure you know this, but Ozy has started a new post and everyone is commenting there now, so if you are using a link, you need to update it.
With the new blog post they are back to their old ways…. maligning Josh and posting lies about ME. Some posters there are very nice, others are evil jerks…. (justme fits that category).
Things never change…
Again, I post under ONE name here, and I’m not doing anything wrong here. And I’m certainly NOT saying that Josh is gay anywhere in this forum. I honestly think that Ozy has gone insane….
For the 1000th time, Josh said he is not gay and I BELIEVE HIM. He doesn’t LIE.
The only people who repeatedly call Josh a liar is OZY and some of the deplorable people who post on her blog!
Louise, you forgot abut the wonderfulpost y utp on your front page last month. Reread it. You announce that you think Josh is gay!
From the gay Magazine interview post:
From:
Louise
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I just have to make a few more comments….
I KNOW Josh says he’s not gay and MOST of his ardent fans believe he is not gay, but I am here to tell you that “his ardent fanbase” has a skewed view of reality. That is not a slam, just an observation after being a fan of Josh for 10 years…
Superfans appear to form a view of their “hero” (even those who DON’T put him on a pedastal) based on their own vision of the world and their projected desires for a “perfect world”– whatever that means for them.
Whereas certain things might be “obvious” to Josh’s core fans, I am here to tell you that certain things are far from obvious to the general population. People base their opinions on what they SEE… especially when it comes to celebrities. They are cynical and don’t necessarily believe what celebrities SAY. They look at their behavior and choices and personalities and then form an opinion.
I want to be clear: I am NOT saying Josh is gay. What I am saying is that he can tweet all he wants that he is not gay, but that means nothing if he continues to act a certain way.
People are lying to themselves if they say that gay men don’t share certain characteristics. Yes, there are always those men who are able to seem completely heterosexual, yet be gay, however that’s a minority. Think about the gay men YOU know… don’t they act “different” in several ways to the straight men you know? That’s not “stereotyping”.. that’s looking at reality. My best friend was gay and I guarantee you, he was very different than other men. He was into fashion, music… I could make a long list.
Anyway… what I’m getting at is that people observe Josh: the clothes he wears (especially the tight jeans and scarves..lol), the people he hangs out with, his interests (such as musical theatre), etc., etc., and they get an impression that generates a belief about him. Over the last ten years I have seen MANY comments by non-fans and believe me, there are a LOT of people out there who think Josh is gay. Sorry, but that’s the truth many of his fans don’t want to face. It is NOT “obvious” to these people that Josh is not gay. It is actually obvious to them that he IS gay. My husband’s gaydar goes off like an explosion when it comes to Josh– and it’s not because of Josh’s “mannerisms”–it is the sum total of everything about him.
Then add in the fact that Josh has not had a PUBLICLY acknowledged girlfriend in 7 years AND he has admitted hiding relationships, well, that just fuels the fires of speculation… and impressions.
The hiding relationships thing is especially troublesome for Josh– because even his FANS admit that this simply does not make sense for him to do that. You can come up with all the theories you want, but none of them really hold up to scrutiny and logic.
Sorry Josh fans if you don’t like these ideas, but I’m being honest about what I have observed… for years. So if Josh wants people to stop getting these “impressions” and he actually IS straight, then he needs to stop doing all these things that lead people to believe he is gay. Simply tweeting “I’m not gay”, or telling a reporter “I might want a wife someday” is not going to cut it… If he continues on like he has, especially the hiding relationships thing, he will spend the next 50 years dodging the gay rumors…
Louise, Wacky and Passionate Proprietor of the Josh Groban Corner Pub
The Obama Supporter thread over at the Pub looks exactly like what Louise claims it is not.The whole thread is just a very ugly POV. UGLY!
Wisdom is often found in small nuggets. Here is 1 such nugget for Louise to think about as she is such a “Critic” .:
“The critic is a prisoner to his own experiences and perspectives, erroneously believing his limited experiences are the sum of all truth.”~ Pastor T.D. Jakes.
Louise
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judymoo (LINUS)
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55.37 In reply to 55.36
Yep, pcjg1 and Ozy are back in attack mode. I will never understand how fans of Josh Groban can be so vicious. Not to mention stalkers.
You or I didn’t do anything in this thread except point out THEIR behavior, describe what THEY said. So if this thread is horrible, I guess that means what they said is horrible. I agree….lol.
Yes, Kari is constantly investigating Josh’s friends and their families– watching them. And do they really think that Josh appreciates that? What the hell?
And just to clarify, when I started this forum over, I did not mean I would never point out the deplorable behavior of some Josh Groban fans. The intention of starting over was to have a better organized forum with better features (I upgraded the software).
I will continue to report things I see on the internet that Josh and his management should know about– especially creepy behavior like that of Kari, pcjg1, and Ozy.
It’s a service I provide for Josh…. I am guessing he appreciates everything I do for him!
Louise, Wacky and Passionate Proprietor of the Josh Groban Corner Pub
Oh yeah Louise, Myself, Kari and Pcjg1 are all trembling in out boots with fear of you reporting thid blog to Josh’s Management. NOT!! They know all about this blog and what it says. Josh’s people,RB people and all of Josh old girlfriends read here all the time too. Your threats are falling on deaf ears.
Tell us Louise, do you honestly think Josh’s management will take anything you say and act on it? Sounds to me like you’s like to be a gloried Nay Davis. But that’s impossible because YOU have been banned from all things Josh so why would anyone listen to you? You don’t think you are a bully? Think again! This blog hasn’t gotten a letter from Josh’s lawyer telling me to shut down my blog, But you did. You had management from WBR watching your every word and trying to stop you from even reading @ FoJG! Of course, I don’t try a million and 1 times to rejoin where I’m not wanted. I’ve moved well beyond that stale arena.
I’m not banned from all thiungs Josh Groban, nor is Kari, PCJG1 nor any of the other posters. We can join any of his sites without reprocussions. We can donate to his charities and have our donations accepted. You may not like any of us Louise for SPECULATING, but we can still do all the normal things in josh land that you can not! And weare sure that our speculations are far more acceptable than the ones you continue to whisper in dark couners, ” Josh is Gay!!!”
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Louise
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If Ozy or anyone else over there thinks that the majority of Josh Groban fans support and like what is being said in that blog, they are DEAD WRONG. Ozy might point out her large number of “hits”, but so what? Hits does not equal support. If Adolf Hilter came back to life and started a blog, I’m sure his blog would get a lot of hits too– but it’s because people are curious to see what kind of horrible thing he would say next.
Also, if anyone reads that blog for a while they realize what is going on– Ozy frequently reports that she banned someone– that’s because someone comes along and challenges what they are doing or tries to state the TRUTH. And that’s the last thing they want over there… truth. They just want to spreads rumors, denigrate and libel Josh, attack other fans like me, and report their stalkerish behavior and the results of their “detective work” on Josh’s friends and their families and businesses.
Disgusting! And I have a right to state my opinion about what they are doing.
Oh my! Now I am compaired to Hitler? Louise has totally lost it. My audience knows that for several weeks this blog was set upon by a troll wo was trying to get Josh’s attention on twitter. When that failed she came HERE because, yes, thousands read here every day, unlike the Pub. The troll was taken care of and soon settled over at the who is dating who site. And if EVERYONE must agree with this blog or it will be deleted, then why did I allow ths to stand????
Submitted on 2012/12/05 at 11:45 pm ( from Josh Groban News and Updates)
Someone directed me to this site today. Forgive me while I laugh. Words have always painted a picture for me. I will share what I see:
A bunch of middle-aged, obviously financially spoiled, totally male-ignored women who have lots of fun discussing a performer’s love life or lack of one, because they apparently do not have a love interest and/or have nothing better to do with their time.
I’ve seen women like you before who live to destroy everyone else who doens’t latch onto their scewed way of seeing and reporting things. It’s pathetic, but in a totally laughable way.
So, I have to ask the question: Is this site for real? Or is it a spoof? Either way, Saturday Night Live could take skit ideas from this site.
Thanks for the laughs. Rhonda
But if I will NOT allow words to be posted that disagree with this site than why did I allow the above comment in the Pretty Woman # 3
OMG Louise has yet again invented a new member to join the Pub so that she actually has someone to interact with and have agree with her on all things regarding Josh’s Love life and who he is or is not dating.
” WELCOME MEG!” She was introduced to us in the, Josh is engaged again thread over there. When will Louise learn that we’ve all figured out it’s just her making busy work, trying to be popular.
I just wanted to say to GoodOverEvil that he/she is welcome to come to this blog and post as she was banned by Louise from the Pub.
goodoverevil 10:28
To: Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 10:33 78 of 78
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GOODOVEREVIL IS NOW BANNED FOR REPEATED CRUELTY TO A JOSH FAN.
THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM.
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Taken from the “I am Horrified by the disrespect. . . Ozy’s blog.“
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 1:04
To: goodoverevil 8:53 22 of 29
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I’m finally replying to your bullshit:
“You say he reads here, and you have begged and pleaded for him to do something on your behalf. He hasn’t done a thing, other than order his charity to return your check. FYL is Josh’s charity. It’s not run by the fans. I’m going to repeat this. No fans are part of the running of FYL.” ~ Goodevil.
You don’t know that Josh “ordered my check to be returned”, unless of course, you talked to Josh, or you are a member of his team. I highly doubt either is true. So why don’t you shut up?
Also I KNOW FYL is Josh’s charity– just like the Josh Groban Foundation was his charity. It’s obvious to me that the only thing that happened when Josh announced his “new” FYL foundation is that his existing foundation changed names, it redirected focus, and he launched a new website. It appears that management of the foundation did NOT change one bit–and it was never managed by fans– not since day one. The organization that IS managed by fans is the GFC, which is completely separate from the foundation. I’m sure fans WANTED to be part of his foundation, but they never have been. All they do is run events to help Josh’s foundation, collect the money, and send it to the foundation.
And guess who DOES run Josh’s foundation? His MOTHER, that’s who… along with Boulevard Management. THAT is who returned by check– their return address was on the envelope. No, I don’t know who “ordered” my check returned, but it doesn’t make sense that Josh ordered that– I really doubt he even KNEW anything about my check or what they did with it. YES, he knew about the check AFTER I reported here that it was returned, and I’m guessing that he was absolutely FURIOUS that they returned it– because their action reflects VERY poorly on his foundation! If I hired a management company to handle donations to my foundation, and then found out that they were RETURNING donations to people because they didn’t like the person making the donation, I would be absolutely LIVID!!! Wouldn’t YOU?
For God’s sake, there is NO reason for them to treat me this way, return my check. Of course, I understand that charities have the right to refuse donations. I would guess no legitimate charity would accept stolen merchandise, money from criminals, money from the mob, etc…stuff like that…
But I sure don’t fall into any of those categories– I am just a FAN who was trying to HELP Josh’s charity.
Again, whoever DID order my check returned is a complete ASSHOLE and has NO respect for Josh or his charitable efforts. NO respect.
It’s SO sad that Josh has slimey hateful people running his charity! A true SHAME!
:@ :-@
So, Josh’s Mother is SLIMEY and an ASSHOLE! And you wonder why Josh won’t have anything to do with you?
Louise, please give it up. Find another singer to invest your talents in and leave Josh alone. You have a great many talents, Louise but you insist on staying where you are not wanted. And that’s too bad.
So Louise is trying to control my behavior; telling others that I’m a liar and calling me other wonderful names and yet~ when it comes to the women seen in a crowd with Josh, whether they have anything to do with him our not, Louise attacks them with name calling a childish taunts. And Louise, you should know that the minute you have to do some name calling of anyone, that, right there, you have lost the argument.. . . Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!! Got it, Louise? That’s why I don’t call you names. That why NONE of us call you names.
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From the Josh goes to EWEL Performance and Birthday Party:
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 14 May 23:48
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Lots of photos with Josh in them here:
http://redhot-society.com/?p=1880
Ok, I wouldn’t want to go to a party where people are walking around taking my picture everytime I talk to someone or drink from my glass.
He looks like he may have been having fun, but I feel sorry for him– that has to be annoying. And why was a photographer there anyway?? I don’t get it…
Also, looks like a bunch of ditzy party girls there … with nothing much upstairs– between their ears that is… Who wants to talk to them? lol…
(Louise, who are you to say something like that about women who are complete strangers to you but who are friends of either Eric’s or Josh? I’m pretty sure that’s so very “not cool with either guy.” )
But anyway, happy birthday ELEW!!
I met him in Dallas last year and he took a picture with me– it was COOL!
And to OZY and the others liars and slimeballs at her site: I am NOT TRYING TO POST at your fricken’ blog. NEVER. Stop LYING about me. And why would I try to anyway?? ANYONE who has a difference of opinion from your posters gets labeled a “troll” and their posts deleted! Censorship in the extreme!
Yes, Louise, it WAS you. You basically said the same thing that was posted here. in the Paul Newman thread. It was you because you were out of town with your laptop and so the IP was different each time you posted, as long as you kept moving. Heck even the Avatar changed when the IP changed. That’s the way it works and you know it.
Louise, we are NOT bugging you. YOU are coming over to my blog and making trouble, calling people names, claiming we are liars, slime-bags (which is another name for a used condom.) and judging all of us according to your own twisted opinion. Yes, Josh people do read at my blog and Rachel’s people do too.
Unlike you, I’ve not gotten a letter from Josh’s lawyer asking me to shut down my blog. FACT! You need to go away and leave me and my members alone, Louise.
Here we go again with the PUB Police trying to control My Blog.
5/ 15/12 Taken from a new thread Louise has started about my site.
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 13:56
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I’m sitting in the airport on a layover… decided to catch up on Josh news, and I shouldn’t have read “that site”.
Because I am SHOCKED and HORRIFIED, once again, at the complete disrespect of Josh there. Simply HORRIFIED.
And only ONE person is saying anything halfway in his defense….
This is COMPLETELY DISTRESSING and it’s actually libel, because they are actually harming Josh’s reputation and therefore his CAREER.
To take something said by a COMEDIAN being silly or by another singer in a SHOW making a JOKE, as FACT, and then reporting that on the internet as FACT is again, unbelievably horrifying…
I shouldn’t let this upset me so much… I KNOW. But I CARE about Josh and to see the disrespect and the spreading of rumors about his life…. it’s VERY upsetting!!
How could these “FANS” do such a thing???
There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that Josh is a womanizer or promiscuous, casually bedding women in his orchestra or on tour or anywhere ELSE. To state such things as FACT is unbelievable, and I cannot understand why Josh’s people or SOMEBODY doesn’t do something about that horrifying site….
I feel like I just want to CRY for Josh….
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Taken from the same thread at the Pub.
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 14:34
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And furthermore, that whole damn blog is ALL about spreading RUMORS about Josh’s relationships–on a PUBLIC WEBSITE—- they are constantly stating as FACT things they know NOTHING ABOUT…. just because they saw a photograph on the internet or because “another fan” told them this or that….
I shake my head in disbelief how ANYONE can say that place is a “great” site.
Thank God that at least Josh has LOUISE to SPEAK UP FOR HIM and RESPECT HIM.
And by the way, Kari is a a complete A$S… the biggest rumormonger I have EVER encountered in my entire life.
(fail)
Boarding my plane now…
I am so sad… for multiple reasons,,.,.
I don’t understand how people can be so cruel, hateful, and heartless…:-(
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 14:42
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Oh, one more thing…
Ozy constantly deletes posts by anyone who tries to state the truth or disagree with a poster there…. and then claims that the people she deleted were “trolls”…
Well Louise it has become obvious that YOU took the opportunity to come in and try and post here while you were traveling with your laptop. I caught and deleted both yours and Tina’s posts. Both of you ARE trolls so your posts were deleted. This is my site and I will delete the trolls. ~~ (Brenda and Maranda)
And finally, the voice of reason:
goodoverevil 17:10
To: Louise (PILLOW_LADY) unread 4 of 4
4291.4 In reply to 4291.3
Louise,
Lighten up. What guy wouldn’t want to have a reputation of having a big *ic* and knowing how to use it.
I don’t post there, but they clearly state that these are just opinions and speculation and not fact. If Josh had a problem with it, the owner would have been contacted by his attorneys. Then again, that didn’t work for him in the past.
You seem so concerned about policing other people’s behavior. Isn’t that what you always complained about? If you look at some of the comments you have made in the past, you’ve done the exact same thing as what they’re doing.
You’re going to kill youself with stress contantly worrying about what other people are doing. Josh is a big boy, and can take care of himself.
Just to clarify one other point, since I haven’t been posting here. Josh’s foundation FYL is totally separate from any fan run Josh charity. Josh has complete control over that, and you can be sure that he knows exactly what’s going on there.
WAKE UP PEOPLE…. think about what is going there!!
Will Louise not let this die?
Taken from the Pub 5/9/12
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 8 May 21:29
To: judymoo (LINUS) 8 May 21:36 3 of 10
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There hasn’t been freedom of speech on FOJG since 2003… 3 days after it started…lol…
There is a tendency to have power or control… boss others around. I don’t know if this is just Josh Groban fans or all fan clubs have this problem. I suspect it is common…
Lizzi is now screaming in twitter that fans in FOJG are “attacking her” and she’s demanding that Sarah delete everyone’s posts. She’s “reporting” people.
Uhhhh… I read the threads over there and I don’t see anyone attacking her at ALL. Fans should be able to talk about this and discuss JOSH’S TWEETS.
As far as Sarah’s post… hmmm… it’s vague. Sounds like nobody can criticize Josh anymore there. That’s the silliest dumbest thing yet. She says fans bullying or harrassing others will be warned and possibly banned… and that a “line was crossed” this weekend. Uhhh… WHAT line? What defines the line? What is their definition of bullying and harrassing? All I see are fans expressing opinions about Josh’s tweets and Lizzi’s tweets and posts…. Nobody is calling her names or demanding that she be banned or anything close to that.
LIZZI is the one running around screaming and demanding that posts be deleted and others be banned. Looks to me like she wants to rule Josh’s fan club and police other fans’ opinions. Yep, this is board police behavior: “I don’t like you disagreeing with me so I’m going to run off to the mods and report you and try to get you banned”. Disgusting. She should contact the old board police from years ago and have dinner with them… they would get along fine!
I sure hope Josh is reading over there… so he can realize what a mess he created… bwaaahhhhhaaaa….
Gee Louise, how do you know what is happening on FOJG if you were banned for the umpteenth time!
Well I have kept this blog quiet for nearly a month, things are brewing around Louise and the Pub and Josh had to step in, Via Twitter and take Lizzi58 side. Granted Louise just reported it and gave her ever so slanted opinion on it but still, you all need to read it.
Taken From The Pub!: 5/6/12
From : Josh will do “Live Below The Line Challenge.
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 May 11:04
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@skysong263 the 1.50 was a number chosen based on the adjustment for US economy equivalent. It really is that difficult for so many people.
josh groban @joshgroban
I’m happy to take part as we do our part to continue to raise awareness of those less fortunate around the world. More info coming soon!
josh groban @joshgroban
fans are asking about the Live Below The Line campaign, what its all about. A GREAT question and can be answered here: https://www.livebelowtheline.com/
lizzi58: joshgroban NO-the conversation is really important. Even tweeting about it is good. And that’s thanks to you engaging with us here -good!
josh groban @joshgroban
@lizzi58 Absolutely. It starts with the conversation that wouldn’t have otherwise happened. And thats thanks to you too for asking about it.
josh groban @joshgroban
@lizzi58 If i had not signed on, done nothing, and in turn not sparked your skepticism, would that have been better?
josh groban @joshgroban
@lizzi58 we all live our lives the way we live them. the choice to take the opportunities to help others within our lives is up to us.
lizzi58: I would love to hear what you think-I’m not being critical-I am thinking about this-how will it help
josh groban @joshgroban
@lizzi58 IMHO, its an activity that brings the topic to a conversation and in turn leads to a desire to help/donate. That is the hope.
Louise, Wacky and Passionate Proprietor of the Corner Pub
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 May 11:29
To: judymoo (LINUS) 5 May 15:53 5 of 23
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Yes, if you tweet at Josh a gazillion times, he definitely notices.
And it is obvious that he responds to people who (1) who say cute or funny things, or (2) say something that forces him to defend himself
This is clearly a case of (2), and of course Josh is brilliant at his defense and being NICE to the person who has said something that bothers him.
HERE is Lizzi’s cruel post, labeling him a hypocrite, that probably upset Josh and forced him to defend himself:
celebs are so hard to understand. @joshgroban lives on 1.50 day- awareness for poverty-then he performs for the fragrance awards #dontgetit
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 May 11:32
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And now she is wondering why people are unfollowing her and being critical…
Geesh… she needs to catch a clue!
Sometimes Josh tweeting at you is not something to be happy and/or proud about… (Personally, if I did something like that and he responded, I would slink away in shame…)
(Gee, I don’t see Louise slinking away in shame yet.) ~ Ozy
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 May 15:48
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Oh, and by the way, here are tweets by skysong263 a.k.a. straightarrow:
@lizzi58 Still can’t wrap my head around the fragrance awards, independently of the other. #menRamystery @joshgroban
joshgroban Remember Marie Antoinette who played at being shepherdess in the Petit Trianon while people were starving.
So both Lizzi and Straightarrow slammed Josh… how “nice” of them…
They are friends… makes sense… you know how it is…”birds of a feather flock together”..
And now she is calling other fans dysfunctional:
lizzi58 Josh valued your discussion with him. These Grobies who are unfollowing you are dysfunctional.
Uhh, yeah right… A fan denigrates Josh’s actions and motives and has to defend himself, and he “values” that…. Unbelievable….
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 May 21:13
To: Katja unread 12 of 23
4281.12 In reply to 4281.7
Oops… just saw your post…
“Josh didn’t seem to mind her asking at all”
Of course he didn’t “seem” to mind, because he is kind and brilliant and diplomatic. No way is he going to say “I didn’t like what you implied about me”.
” I’m sure that if she had offended him in any way he would have just ignored her.”
Actually, I disagree. I don’t know if “offended” is exactly the right word, but the fact that Josh responded to her indicates that he wanted to “set the record straight” and defend his participation in the event. This is what he has done MANY times on twitter– responded to someone who slammed him in some way for his actions or inactions. He did that just a few days ago when a guy started blasting him for being disrespectful to autistic people.
The thing that got everyone so upset about what Lizzi was tweeting was that she was implying he was just another uncaring celebrity doing some meaningless charity event to make himself look good– see her comment above where she said she “didn’t get” how he could do this event and then do the fragrance awards. Gee, that sure doesn’t seem very nice or supportive of Josh at all. So it appeared to many that Josh did what he has done in the past: spoke up to defend his position.
And now she is claiming everyone is “mean” and “jealous” because many fans speak up about what she did. That’s like running around saying “nah nah nah nah– he tweeted me and not you”. Not very classy to me. And sorry, no way I am “jealous” of her having a twitter exchange with Josh. In fact, I would be ashamed if I were her! Thousands of people saw what she tweeted. And she is sadly mistaken if she thinks most people liked what she tweeted about the event/fragrance awards. The overwhelming reaction I saw in both twitter and in the message board was negative. Of course, if anyone dares to speak their opinion they are labeled “mean” or “a bully”. She has no idea what a bully REALLY is… someone disagreeing with something you said or did is not bullying.
I never had a problem with anyone disagreeing with me… bullying is when fans deliberately try to destroy your life, attack your children, threaten lawsuits, and do everything they can to shut down your website and silence you. I sure don’t see anyone doing that to Lizzi.
Personally, I like to see fans defending Josh, rather than questioning his motives in such a way that propells him to defend himself.
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 May 22:39
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@lizzi58 Quit calling people who disagree with you “bullies”.
I haven’t agreed with ChirpieGrl in the past, but she tweeted the above and I agree 100%. Lizzi is going on and on about people bullying her and she has NO clue what bullying really is…NO clue.
I also agree with people expressing their opinions. Lizzi seems to believe that she can say whatever the hell she wants, but nobody can respond to her. Unbelievable….
EDITED TO SAY– I still stand by this post — no matter what Josh says… I saw no bullying of her in twitter….
Josh needs to find out what bullying IS!
(Gee, saying this to Josh after she praised him for coming out against bullying just last night. Louise is sounding very hypocritical.) Ozy.
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(And of course, no post is complete without Louise, for the 100th time trying to tell her side of the bully war against her. She refuses to leave it in the past and move beyond it. )
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 May 23:10
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In case Lizzi or Straightarrow or others talking about “bullying” by Josh fans are reading this thread… I post this link …
Want to know what bullying REALLY is? Take 5 minutes to read this:
SHORT VERSION OF MY STORY
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(Between Judy Moo and Louise, the story has taken on a life of it’s own with both of them calling a commentary that is not based on fact but just opinions. Their own )
judymoo (LINUS) 16:07
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wow what a can of worms that list of twitterisms that opened on fojg. You are right Lizzie doesn’t know what bullying is…people disagreeing with the way she went about asking Josh questions and her response was a good way to begin a war.
It is none of her business anyway what he does or doesn’t do but she feels she has the right, as a fan, to chastise him as if he were a naughty school boy. This is one way to put josh off twitter and I know if that happened there would be a lot of unhappy people and if would be her on fault.
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Now Louise should slink away because she has slammed everyone involved including Josh.:
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 19:50
To: judymoo (LINUS) 21:17 19 of 23
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Putting my paintbrush down a while…
Hmmmm….
What the hell is going on in twitter and FOJG?????????????
Somebody clue me in!!!!
Josh responded to Lizzi again!!
lizzi58: got to say- things have moved past the dysfunctional zone into the creepy zone. All because @joshgroban tweeted with me #insanity #scary
josh groban @joshgroban
@lizzi58 any fan acting in such a way to you based on an intelligent and open discussion is no fan of mine, truly.
I haven’t been on twitter since the morning…. WHO is acting “creepy” and “dysfunctional”???????
HUH??????????
Who is she referring to??????
It’s times like these I am GLAD I’m not posting in FOJG…..
LOL!!!!!
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 20:02
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And gee… it would have been nice if Josh would have defended me when I was being CYBERBULLIED by HIS people and the BOARD POLICE of his message boards!!
Wow… I’ve been a loyal fan and he obviously doesn’t give a shit about me!!!!
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 20:30
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And I just gotta say, Josh obviously doesn’t know the whole story…
Lizzi has not exactly been kind to certain fans.. including ME.
A long time ago, she was following me… and I was always NICE TO HER. And then one day I noticed she blocked me… I found out that someone posted on her blog and signed MY NAME. And she didn’t believe me when I told her it wasn’t me.
And then her friend straightarrow apparently believed it too and posted a blog about me and said that I had mental problems and that I did stuff and then couldn’t remember doing them.
Nice…. (NOT).
But whatever…
Again, I don’t know who she is referring to being “creepy” and “dysfunctional”…
I’m always out of the loop… and I guess Josh believes everything she says…
Also, I don’t think Josh saw Lizzi’s earlier tweets, like this one:
celebs are so hard to understand. @joshgroban lives on 1.50 day- awareness for poverty-then he performs for the fragrance awards #dontgetit
I still say that was NOT nice. And there is nothing wrong with me not liking one of her tweets…
But I guess someone in FOJG was saying much worse…(????)
Louise, Wacky and Passionate Proprietor of the Corner Pub
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(Boy these two woman can sure spin the facts now can’t they?)
judymoo (LINUS) 21:35
To: Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 21:36 22 of 24
4281.22 In reply to 4281.21
It did start to get nasty – but she started it. There is nothing wrong with a heated discussion but she took it too far..and kept on about it. She was saying that fans were jealous cos Josh tweeted to her 5 times..but that wasn’t the issue..the issue was that she was questioning what he was doing without knowing all the facts.
She was behaving irrationally and quite childishly in my view…now Josh has hurt a whole bunch of fans by sticking up for Lizzie without knowing all the facts himself. A heated war is ensuing as I write. I think most people when Josh responds to anyone is happy that they received an answer but she had no right to question him in the first place and now she states she is being harrassed and bullied but its not the case. People are just stating that they disagreed with her point of view.
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 21:52
To: judymoo (LINUS) 22:17 23 of 24
4281.23 In reply to 4281.22
I agree with everything you wrote!
Especially the part about Josh not knowing the whole story…I seriously doubt he reads all of her tweets. I saw her claiming that people were jealous and when people responded she started going on and on and on about people bullying her. Like you, I don’t believe anyone was jealous of her… they just didn’t like her tweets. In twitter I didn’t see anyone calling her names or anything like that…
I wonder if she read my story? I posted a link to that here and in twitter too. What was done to her was extremely mild compared with what I went through!
Thinking about it… does anyone besides me find it very odd that Josh is finally NOW responding to any fan-on-fan disagreements?
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 22:16
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And in response to PCJG 1, one of the most hateful fans in the history of Josh’s fandom, who repeatedly attacked me in long posts that were essentially saying that Josh doesn’t want me for a fan:
I am NOT “aligning myself” with Lizzi. No way. I didn’t like her tweets from the beginning of this mess and I still don’t. And I especially don’t like her screaming about being bullied when I saw no evidence of that in twitter. I’m not “victimizing” her in any way– I just disagreed with what she was tweeting… geesh…
I certainly in no way attacked her and I don’t like how she is portraying any fan who disagrees with her as “creepy”, “jealous”, “a bully”, or “dysfunctional”.
Do you think THAT is a nice way for HER to talk about other fans? Uh, REALLY? So she can call THEM names and that’s ok?
So Josh is OK with her doing THAT to other fans?
Josh is seeing her pitching a fit and assuming she’s accurately portraying the situation, and from what I can tell, she’s not.
The thing I am excited about is Josh FINALLY saying SOMETHING about fan-on-fan hate…. the extreme kind, where fans run to his management and lie about other fans, call them names, shun them for no reason, etc…
And his fan club has been RUINED for years– maybe he’s finally catching a clue about that. And you can’t blame that on me– I haven’t posted there since 2005—LOL.
Yes, I think Louise should reread the part about slinking away in shame when Josh has to Tweet a reprimand. JMO, I think Louise should slink away for awhile since she can be a bully to many fans as well. The proof is right here in this thread. ~Ozy
Louise, Wacky and Passionate Proprietor of the Corner Pub
Yes, in the distant past he told his fans to “be nice”, but he hasn’t said anything like that in a LONG time…
Now it is being blown all out of proportion which is why Josh tweeted that last tweet.
And I have mental problems and anyone unfollowing Lizzi is dysfunctional…
Again, how “nice” of her…..
:@ :-@
Yet these fans are welcome to post in FOJG…
I will never understand this crap…
Louise, Wacky and Passionate Proprietor of the Corner Pub
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Taken From The Pub From the Thread” Down, Thanking of Closing!!!!” 5/7/12
Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 5 Feb 20:47
To: sajones55 5 Feb 23:55 19 of 22
4181.19 In reply to 4181.18
I haven’t been watching Lucina Aeterna… but what I saw a while back is REALLY frightening!
And speaking of creepy people on the internet, there is some nut on twitter who keeps starting new twitter accounts just to post hateful things to me.
This is the last two tweets:
FYI stop lying and telling people ur daughter @aacase has cancer. Stop making up lies to garner attention. U’re no victim.
Josh replied to lizzy and not to u? U must be so pissed right now LMAO.
Actually those make me laugh because first of all, I am GLAD Josh replied to Lizzi… she has spoken out against bullying and I agree with her, so it’s just GREAT that Josh replied to her!
And secondly, what the hell is that tweet about my daughter concerning? I never said my daughter has cancer… because she DOESN’T….LOL. And she doesn’t even HAVE a twitter account….HA HA HA HA!!!
This world has gone NUTS!!!!!!
(Can WE call Louise, “SPIN DOCTOR???? because that is exactly what she has done! A whole thread speaking AGAINST Lizzi58 and NOW this stupid response. Talk about trying to be politically correct! OMG!)
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@SamsGirl2002:
@eugeniamae8 @mkqueenbee cause that’s probably how soon I’ll give dipshit JG a 2nd thought.
@MaryAwake to say to her those who disagree with her aren’t true fans is what cheesed everyone off…
Marie Freitas @MAF11
@SamsGirl2002 @tjw1234 @dodoNYC @eugeniamae8 @Trishanduke He makes one mistake & you’re all done?
7h Trisha @Trishanduke
@MAF11 @SamsGirl2002 @tjw1234 @dodoNYC @eugeniamae8 one mistake for which he will never apologize for.
6h Doris @SamsGirl2002
@eugeniamae8 @trishanduke he won’t. & it will affect his relationship with his fans from here on out.
joshgroban Your dismissal of loyal & dedicated career fans without verification is hurtful. I’ll get over it …but tonight #sadness
@annapip99 @MAF11 So true. If he only knew the crap she says about him – his mental health, his love life – lots of stuff –he’d block her.
Marie Freitas @MAF11
@joshgroban It’s important that you read FOJG to know who all players are & what everyone’s about when you read that there’s trouble.
eugeniamae @eugeniamae8
well, i think i just had my wakeup call and will get on with life. fucked up way to end. … gotta say, it was a fun ride.
Wendy Loo @ChirpieGrl
@eugeniamae8 LOL I hear you. I am not happy. Especially since he just said his fans weren’t real fans.
Jill Weinberger @jillybobww
@eugeniamae8 Aw. Sorry. I know what it’s like to let go of someone you’ve admired. That said, screw him.
RUMORS!!
ARE STARTED BY HATERS,
SPREAD BY FOOLS,
AND ARE ACCEPTED BY IDIOTS!!!
Judymoo tried to crash the Pretty Woman Party but was caught!
Submitted on 2012/04/04 at 6:01 pm | In reply to dlny.
Hi Judymoo!
Taken from the pub 10 minutes ago.:
: judymoo (KALOU2) 13:26
To: Louise (PILLOW_LADY) unread 546 of 546
3834.546 In reply to 3834.545
Yes but look at this way.
There were 2 new people on her site the other day but because they disagreed have not posted again. Now they could just be busy and not writing but reading.
If they read Ozy’s site and then read about you they may come here instead..look at it from a positive side..the more she keeps you out there the more people might come to visit.
That other person you mentioned is like Ozy’s minion….I think I’ll go spoil their fun.
Until he responds to another tweet or is seen walking hand in hand down the street with her I shall make my own judgement.
dlny
solihull123@gmail.com
199.71.174.100
Submitted on 2012/04/04 at 5:49 pm
I too was at the event on Monday..it was a dressy/classy affair and if you came by car then you didn’t need a coat, it was very warm inside the venue.
I have a friend who is a huge Josh fan – she wasn’t waiting for hours for him to arrive and she told me he arrived alone and went into the venue by himself. When the evening ended there was a huge rush and there were a lot of people milling around and a lot of paparazzi..whilst Josh was signing my friend said she saw the girl in the picture being pushed from behind towards the back of Josh and his bg was kind enough to rescue her.
I was also told he was signing autographs and taking pictures for a while and especially with a little girl in a wheelchair. From her pictures that she took and the pictures posted on this site it is not the same person.
However I am only stating what she told me and the pictures that she sent. I had an amazing time anyway.
Hmmm~ Take a look at this~ interesting.:
From the Ozy’s website thread:
First post on that thread by Judy moo, only this time she has a different handle. (Linus)
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From: judymoo (LINUS) 1 Apr 12:39
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judymoo (KALOU2) 16:44
To: Katja unread 12 of 13
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Oh good I think Louise needs to post another poll on Josh’s lovelife and tweet it this time as a certain person is putting hers on Facebook
From the Ozy’s website thread:
“I see Josh LOSING FANS left and right. And you know why? They see cruelty in his fanbase, think he’s a liar who mistreats women or fans, think he doesn’t care about his fans or even that he hates some of them (me), etc… all those things that Ozy’s site is constantly implying or stating as fact. And so I think that if anyone thinks that Ozy’s site is HELPING JOSH in any way they have a screw loose upstairs!!
But, it’s none of my business what Josh and his people do. If they want that libelous site to stay on the internet, then so be it. It’s just a damn shame how Josh’s own people don’t seem to want to correct or prevent damage to Josh’s reputation or his charity. They don’t even care that he has the crappiest fan club of any celebrity… that lets a bunch of board police and cruel mods run people off.. a fan club that posts cruel “notices” implying that I am a scam artist. A damn shame. Josh can’t do it all… he needs people to HELP him, and nobody seems to want to do that….
I see discouraged fans all the time on twitter– and in emails sent to me.
Here’s an example from YESTERDAY in twitter. One of my followers said:
@JGCornerPub @joshgroban seems like a great letter. But after seeing all I have, I have lost the interest in being a fan of josh.
I asked her why and she said:
@JGCornerPub his behavior towards his fans. And his people. I have figured there are other artists out there that know there fans make them
Yep, another fan recognizes that “some” fans get favored treatment and all the others are treated like crap.
Maybe someday people will wake up and smell the coffee and HELP JOSH with this mess, but after all these years, and recent events, I have little hope. The cruel people (like pcjg1) have been in charge since 2003, and nobody seems to give a damn.
I fully DOUBT those tweets.
Taken 4/2/12 from the pub in the Josh’s strange love life thread.
No, people still think that he is hot and heavy with that Rachel girl. and that he is bringing her to his singing events this week. If that happens, i will eat my right shoe. And they were so interested in real estate that she bought. How does one find that out for one and two just because she bought real estate doesn’t mean it’s a love nest for her and josh. If anything, I think he’d have a say in that matter…just sayin…
If anything, that site is good for a grin and a giggle.
Peace out:)
Kms~ For your information Rachel didn’t BUY any real estate. Josh bought property in NYC but not Rachel. She Moved to either a new apartment or her business moved, but she didn’t buy property. And we never stated that she did.
For your information, all land transaction of buying and selling are public record. ANYONE can look up anything on a piece of land or a building.
Glad you enjoy my site for a giggle or two but you might actually learn something if you try to keep up with the facts we are speaking of.
Peace out~~~ OZY~~~
And the bull crap continues to grow.
Now Louise is trying to explain why Sprog left the Pub and is blaming it on US
But Sprong and Cherry were the same person. I noticed they both spoke about not having enough coffee to understand a comment.
And they are BOTH Louise on a third computer, probably at work, in the computer lab.
Louise isn’t going to find fans who totally agree with her time after time. Sprog/ Cherry and now JudyMoo. Are you seeing the pattern?
And WE are responsible for scaring fans away from the Pub. LOL!
From the Pub: 3/19/12
Ok, will try…
Hey…. by the way, “someone” is claiming that you are ME….LOL…
And just to let Ozy and her la-la land clan know: the REASON that Sprog is not posting here anymore is because of Ozy and other people ATTACKING her over there, so she didn’t want to be their target anymore. Yep, that’s right– the mean bullies ran off another fan!!
And ALSO to let everyone know, OTHER fans who used to post here left because they are DISGUSTED WITH JOSH and the way he just lets these bullies treat me… and the way he lets mean people run his websites and FYL… yep, they don’t feel like following him anymore!!
So maybe that is what Ozy, and PCJG1 and all the other liars and bullies need to think about– maybe if you wouldn’t attack other fans like me, Josh wouldn’t lose fans!!!
SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Louise is denying being more than 1 person but since I know for a fact that she can use more than 1 computer at a time, I’m sticking to my claim! Besides, Sprog hasn’t been seen and I find it odd that he/she disappears when I out her!
Louise’s latest rant on me and others:
GET AWAY FROM ME you CREEPY STALKERS and MEAN LIARS!!
Okay, since Sprog/Cherry went on a permanent vacation, Louise has now brought in a new character to interact with her and agree with her opinion, no matter how far fetched.
Her name is JUDYMOO/ Linus. read some of her responses in the Josh’s mysterious love life thread over at the Pub. So many of these new characters are Louise and we are sitting back with large grins on our faces.
Louise must be over her pity party for the auction that got the attention of the FYL foundation.
So now she is back with the whole “JOSH IS GAY!” Bashing.
Here is OUR Opinion:
You are very wrong LM. It was not a couple photo of Rachel & her friend. Her friend does not have her arm around Rachel. Look again.
She is a friend who is a lesbian. Not a lesbian girlfriend. Stop twisting things to prove JG is gay. He is not gay. He will never be gay so stop it. LM – pay attention to this – both JG & Rachel have not twittered today. Sarah said they had plans on meeting up late last night when JG was done filming – maybe they did? This is a clue. Pay attention to JG’s close friends adding Rachel to FB. Pay attention to JG riding home from the L train (out for Brooklyn) in the early morning hours. Brooklyn is where Rachel lives. Pay attention to when JG says he will not MAKE PUBLIC THE WOMEN HE DATES because is is bad for his relationships. I don’t want to be mean but it’s so tiring that you keep wanting to make him a gay man. He is not gay. You cannot make him gay by your speculations. Please accept this because it is true that JG is a straight man who loves the company of women.
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Louise (PILLOW_LADY) 12:24
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3834.494 In reply to 3834.491
Gosh, I’m still giggling… and I bet Josh is still giggling too…
A “couple” photo popped up last night… with RB in it…
Only… not with who you think… guess some folks are so disappointed….
BWAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
RB’s lesbian girlfriend with her arm around RB….
giggle giggle…
Okay Louise, it’s time to either give it up or shut up, one of the two. Everyone is sick of the DRAMA. You’ve been sawing the VIOLINS for far too long ~ Insert rolling eyes here.~
And if you really are done with Josh, then quit opening up more files and start DELETING all the files.
Of course, we KNOW you will only HIDE the files for maybe a week and then make some stupid, lame announcement that you are REOPENING the JOSH GROBAN Pub yet again!
AH, Told ya all!~~~~~
Thanks for your kind words. I’m SO glad you have enjoyed the Pub!
Just to clarify, I am not “shutting down” this forum. NOBODY is going to run me off of the internet.
I’m just totally pissed off at Josh right now and HURT to the core. After all I have done for him and his fans, and this is the way I am treated– I think anyone would be livid and hurt. I would be completely NUTS to continue my enthusiasm for him at this point. Just NUTS.
Maybe someday I will feel different, I can’t say.
And I don’t intend to hurt anyone…. I know people still love Josh and want to see his media, etc. So I’m not deleting any of my media files, data files, etc. In fact, soon I will be posting a link for my new site — the Josh Groban Library. I hadn’t posted it before because it wasn’t finished, but now… what the hell… I’ll go ahead and post it…
What I don’t feel like doing right now is spending much time thinking about Josh or doing anything “new” concerning him… I have to back off and focus on other things for a while…
I hope you stick around anyway… and find something of interest here… welcome to the Pub!!
I rest my case. ~~~Ozy
How ironic that Josh retweeted: “Be nice. (The world is a small town.)” I guess he means “Be nice to everyone except Louise”
Because his own people and his charity have treated me with cruelty for YEARS. And I always thought that JOSH had nothing to do with it. I believed in him and supported him with all my heart.
But I’ve been a FOOL– he could speak up for me but refuses to– he just lets his people BULLY me and never says a word!!
Please be sure to read the comments here in response to WB’s and FYL’s hateful “notice” about me: JG.COM NOTICE
And to the anonymous cowardly jackass there saying I am creating “drama”: everything was going along FINE until WB and FYL posted that hateful notice to Josh’s entire fan base and then deleted ALL my auction items–that I was selling to help Josh’s foundation. And then they banned me from FOJG! It is THEM who started the drama, to HURT ME. That’s incredibly cruel and heartless… and apparently Josh doesn’t even care! He says nothing, as usual!
So it’s OVER.
I will not run a forum for someone who stands by silently and watches the continued bullying of one of his biggest fans –ME — after I have worked my ass off for YEARS helping him and his charity and his fans…. promoting and praising everything he did!
My heart is SHATTERED………..
3/8/2012
This Sunday all folders and threads related to Josh will be removed and this forum renamed. So copy what you want now.
3/7/2012
Sarah just banned me from FOJG….for no reason. I tried to speak up and explain about my auction, in the thread she started…
I guess my post is gone too… here is exactly what I posted:POST
They deleted all my EBay listings, so I re-listed them…
The new links are here: AUCTION ITEMS
I’ll finish the auction on Saturday, send the money to FYL like I promised… I keep my promises.
Then I’m done.
Josh Groban is a hypocrite of the worst kind…. he talks about being bullied in high school, tweets about supporting anti-bullying causes, but stands by and lets me, one of his most loyal fans, be bullied and her heart shattered, and does nothing, says nothing.
I never did anything wrong… I supported Josh 100%, worked my butt off for him–sold his records for him, defended him when others mistreated him, helped his fans, helped his charity, and he doesn’t care. He just watches me getting kicked when I am down.. and never says a kind word for me or to me.
I guess all these years I was so wrong about him… so wrong.
I can no longer support someone who lets his message boards and charity be run by bullies…. these bullies who malign me behind the scenes and lie about me ….
And nobody will speak up for me….
So, no more…
I’m sorry, but I just can’t anymore….
I’ll be closing this forum soon… copy what you want…
And to all of you monsters who have tried to destroy me and my family, and have HURT JOSH and HURT HIS FOUNDATION… may you ROT IN HELL.
I truly AM sorry that this happened to Louise but I’m not surprised that it did.
Sarah just banned me from FOJG….for no reason. I tried to speak up and explain about my auction, in the thread she started…
I guess my post is gone too… here is exactly what I posted:POST
They deleted by EBay listings, so I re-listed…
The new links are here:
AUCTION ITEMS
I’ll finish the auction on Saturday, send the money to FYL like I promised… I keep my promises.
Then I’m done.
Josh Groban is a hypocrite of the worst kind…. he talks about being bullied in high school, tweets about supporting anti-bullying causes, but stands by and lets me, one of his most loyal fans, be bullied and her heart shattered, and does nothing, says nothing.
I never did anything wrong… I supported Josh 100%, worked my butt off for him–sold his records for him, defended him when others mistreated him, helped his fans, helped his charity, and he doesn’t care. He just watches me getting kicked when I am down.. and never says a kind word for me or to me.
I guess all these years I was so wrong about him… so wrong.
I can no longer support someone who lets his message boards and charity be run by bullies…. these bullies who malign me behind the scenes and lie about me ….
And nobody will speak up for me….
So, no more…
I’m sorry, but I just can’t anymore….
I’ll be closing this forum in a few weeks… copy what you want…
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I’m sick too!!
Sarah posted that notice in FOJG… and people were asking what it was about, and so I decided to post this there:
Hello everyone. This is Louise.
I have been a member of FOJG for a while now, but I just read here, I don’t post. But this has motivated me to do so now.
I am sitting here crying my eyes out. Because I cannot believe the incredible cruelty of whoever is behind this “notice”.
I am selling some items on EBay and I announced over and over again that 100% of the net proceeds would be sent to FYL. I never said I was affiliated with FYL, only that I was selling some items to benefit FYL. I was excited to do this for Josh, and I announced my plans on Josh’s birthday. All the items are things I owned or things I made. I spent many hours making Josh pillows and I even painted two watercolor paintings: one of Sweeney and one of Josh.
I had been planning this for a while and about two months ago I contacted FYL thru the FYL website. I asked them if they could add the FYL Foundation to the list of charities in EBay’s “Giving Works” program. I got no response. I checked now and then to see if FYL was in the list, but it never came up. I think the Giving Works program is great because anyone can sell anything and have part (or all) of the proceeds go to your favorite charity. So FYL should be in the list.
Anyway, I decided to go ahead and sell my items in EBay and just send a check to FYL when I got all the funds. I announced many times that 100% of the proceeds would go to FYL, where proceeds = selling price- ebay fees-paypal fees-shipping cost. Yes, 100% of the money I netted was going to FYL.
I created a simple webpage to link to my items for sale, here:
http://louiseannette…onMainPage.html
I have already sold several items and others have many bids and will sell. All the items end Saturday night. I will continue with this auction and send a check to FYL as soon as I get all the payments from the buyers.
I never would have dreamed that someone in charge of Josh’s wonderful charity would do something like this. It is unbelievable. I was trying to help, just like other fans. Josh has thanked many other fans for helping raise money, so I truly cannot understand. This “notice” above was also posted on Facebook and people there are posting in the comments, portraying me as a scam artist. This is horrifying and I am sitting here crying, my heart crushed.
I cannot believe that kind, sweet Josh is behind this action.
I have been a loyal fan of Josh for over 9 years now and have had a forum for him for over 5 years–and there is nothing but respect for him there. Unlike other Josh fan sites I will not allow anyone to say horrible things about Josh– like he’s a drunkard or a womanizer or possibly taking drugs or even that he has mental illness. Josh sees nothing but 100% support in my forum, and I keep up with the news and post media for fans, etc. And I have supported his charitable foundations to the max– I even have a thread there to support his charity.
I also have a twitter page https://twitter.com/#!/JGCornerPub with over 2700 followers!!
I know that this post will eventually be deleted, and I may even be banned. And I will still not understand why– nobody official from WB or Josh’s management has ever told me why. I know there are some fans here who PM other fans telling them horrible things about me, like I am a dangerous stalker or that I threatened other fans or said bad things about his family or that I violated Josh’s privacy. All of that is completely false– I have never done any of those things– not even close, and I cannot understand why these people want to do this to me. Josh himself has spoken out against bullying several times, so why?
People have tried to tell me for years that Josh hates me, but I have never believed it, because I know he can see that I have good intentions and try to help him and his fans… and his charity. (I have made hundreds of Josh pillows for his charity, for many years.)
Please help me.. copy this post and pass it on to others. Stand up for what is right. Maybe eventually the good will win.
To all my supporters: thank you so much.
To Josh: I know you are not behind this “notice”… you would never be so cruel. Still, I am crying, not just for me, but for YOU and all your other fans too… because it seems nothing will ever get better….
Because of her auction, FYL foundation posted a warning to fans. I probably WAS meant for Louise but it didn’t name her outright. When Louise got home from work, she discovered someone had turned her in. This was her post @ FOJG
My tweets to Josh and FYL:
Well, @FYLFoundation if you are referring to me, I NEVER said I was “affiliated’ with FYL, only that I was selling items to BENEFIT FYL.
And @FYLFoundation, this is the most horrible thing EVER. I am trying to HELP raise money for Josh, and I get slapped in the face.
I have a heart @FYLFoundation, and I have worked for YEARS to help Josh. This is unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.
Hey @joshgroban, the action of @FYLFoundation today breaks my heart and I cannot believe you approve of this. How could you???
Does Josh know about this? @FYLFoundation If so, I am heartbroken…
I never, ever said I was affiliated with @FYLFoundation … I am simply selling items on EBay to HELP Josh’s foundation. The items I am selling for @FYLFoundation are here:
http://louiseannette.com/JoshGroban/AuctionFYLFeb272012/AuctionMainPage.html I am just trying to HELP by selling MY items.
You can’t imagine how hard I am crying right now. This is one of the worst things EVER to happen to me. @joshgroban @FYLFoundation
My auction items for @FYLFoundation will end Saturday-Most items have bids & will sell-Over $100 now. Thanks for your kindness @lightofblue
I’ll keep the auction going but my heart is shattered!! Of course I’m not affiliated with @FYLFoundation -everyone knows that.
I’m crying, crying. I never in a million years imagined that @joshgroban’s @FYLFoundation and “Grobanites for Charity” could be so HEARTLESS
Wow! Louise has just post yet another of her horrible polls. The poll slams RB as well as the posters here and I think you ladies should go over there and vote, seeing is how Louise and all of her test subject and minions like Test Louise, Test Louise 2, Sprog and others.. . .. . . You all can compete with her many personalities over at the Pub. I can’t vote as I was Banned! LOL!
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Louise just can not stop slamming my blog. She put up a thread saying she was no longer going to comment on my site but she continues to do so. Well that’s just fine, Louise.
Taken from the pub on 3/1/12
“It is kind of sad that all these websites and people posting on it have nothing else better to do than chase a guy and be obsessed with his love life.”
I absolutely agree. I don’t think there is anything wrong with discussing photos of him out and about, or discussing his friends (especially if they are famous people themselves)– we are just interested in his life because we love him and find him fascinating. The thing that bothers me is when I see people jumping to wild conclusions and starting rumors based on a few tweets or one photograph or something else minor. These “fans” are “researching” anyone that Josh tweets to or follows and they must spend hours and hours tracking down what they post, who they follow, their facebook pages, and on and on… it’s damn creepy. Then they attempt to create connections or say he’s dating someone without any evidence whatsoever, or with just something stupid like they are in the same city at the same time. And the reality is that even if Josh is photographed walking down the street with a girl, that in no way means he’s dating her. If I were a female star similar to Josh I would be disturbed if people were setting up websites and putting up photos of every man that appeared in a photograph with me (walking down the street or whatever) and then “reporting” on that site, or even speculating, to others that I was dating these men. I would be furious!
And if that were not bad enough, they have assigned all sorts of bad behaviors to Josh, from excessive drinking to mistreating women … and they’ve even portrayed him as having mental problems and “needing help”!!
I have gotten emails from people stating that they are ALSO disturbed that this is going on, and they view certain things as libel (which it is) and they think that Josh and his management should do something about it.
Well, as you know, Louise, I’ve gotten several about you too. One of them is posted below.
Of course, people have to say this in private, because they are afraid of those creeps– and I don’t blame them. That site has pages and pages of crap about me– maligning me for defending Josh and defending myself and standing up for what is RIGHT.
Louise, it isn’t maligning you if it is facts.
* You got a letter from Josh’s lawyer telling you to shut down your site. (You decided to ignore it and then joke about it but it is still a fact and I think josh is still waiting for you to comply. But, of course, you WON’T! Because you don’t think he has the right to ask you)
* You personally called Josh Groban’s father at his place of business to talk about YOUR problems. You emailed him for years as well.
* You’ve been banned from all things related to Josh including his boards, his charities and so on.
Also, if I were Rachel Beider, I would be totally creeped out by these people. She hasn’t even been seen with Josh, Josh has never mentioned her, no photographs, nothing… yet they now have her having sex with him 3 times a day on vacation. To me she appears to be a fan who went to the Live W/Kelly tapings, and has now gone on vacation in California, and met up with some friends there– like about half a million other people do in the United States. How they can conclude that she is dating and vacationing with Josh completely baffles me.
NOBODY knows who Josh is with right now, and I’m sure not going to start “researching” anything or anyone to find out.
“I guess that is the down side of being famous and with josh it is worse because he is so open with his fan base.”
Actually, even though I don’t follow other singers, I get the impression that all famous people have disturbing “fans”. Nothing wrong with being a EXTREME fan (like me)– it’s when the behavior crosses the line into libel or stalking or trying to destroy other fans, etc… that’s when it becomes highly disturbing…
“We get lost in all of this because what it boils down to is wanting him to be happy in what he is doing, be busy and enjoy his life. I think him taking this break is a good idea.”
I agree!!
Oh Jeez, Louise will try every which way she can to twist everything so that she can hint that he’s gay!
Josh and JJ DATED for over two and a half years but they were strictly business assoc. because they were CONFUSED??? REALLY????? ROTFLMAF!!!! ~:-D
So wait, you’re saying that both Nicholas Cage and Josh were lying (in detail) to Kelly about what brought about their meeting!? Why would Cage lie about that?
No, you misunderstand. I didn’t say anyone was lying. Of course nobody was lying. I’m just saying that if Josh and JJ were estranged lovers or one (or both) of them had strong feelings for one another (as in gf-bf), or they were confused or upset about the past, JJ sure as hell would not be calling up Josh to hop over to her house for a friendly chat with another actor. But that’s what she did, and he went. Nicolas called JJ a “mutual friend”. Yep, true.
And I also don’t get your meaning about “business associates”.
All three of them are actors (or are trying to be), in the movie business. Therefore they are business associates. Simple as that.
Why is my term confusing?
***Louise, nobody from my blog, myself included, got a letter from Josh’s lawyer telling them/ me to shut down my site. You DID!
***I have never, in any way, shape or form, ever contacted Josh Groban, any member of his family, nor any of his friends for any reason what so ever.
You contacted Josh’s father 23 times through emails and also made several personal phone calls to his office during working hours!
You contacted Josh Grandmother and sent a “Josh Pillow” to her Home!
Nobody on this site is proclaiming Josh is gay but you do even after he’s denied it time and time again.
You have been banned from all of Josh’s official sites and from his charities. Nobody here is banned. We can all join the official sites. I choose not to but I can if I want.
Stop trying to twist the events on this site to suit your own absurd meaning.
Well, here you go folks…
We now have more PROOF that Ozy’s blog is a disrespectful slimey site devoted to maligning Josh Groban, attacking me and other Josh fans, and stalking Josh’s friends:
First, a photographer came to the blog and demanded the photos of Rachel be removed, then one of her FRIENDS posted this:
On February 19, 2012 at 3:26 pm NW said:
I am friends with Rachel, we have worked together for years. I contacted the photographer when I saw his work was on here. I can assure you that Rachel is a very sweet, normal, and private person. I will always look out for her, and I know that she would feel embarrassed to see something like this being discussed by total strangers online. Who she is or is not dating is no one’s business but her own.
And OZY has the NERVE to malign OTHER fans, claiming THEY will violate Rachel’s privacy. What a hypocrite– because obviously the ONLY fans DOING that are the posters on HER blog! And violating it SO much that Rachel’s friend had to go there and post the above! Yep, there they are “investigating” everything they can about Josh’s friends or anyone he tweets to… looking up their facebook pages, seeing who they like or follow or who their friends follow…. it’s DAMN CREEPY!!
And the creepiest are the trio of Kari, Lauren, and PCJG1 who apparently are obsessed with proving to everyone that Josh loves them, hates me, and that their “theories” about him and his life are correct. … and they email each other behind the scenes, talking their CRAP, to who knows who….
Then they go and on about how Josh is hiding things and being thoughtless or a cad or a womanizer or a drunkard… or that he needs to grow up… and on and on and on…. then saying it’s only “their opinion” and all their posts are “great”…
It’s INFURIATING!!!
POOR JOSH to have such a blog of horrors on the internet!!!
And to think that they believe that people visit that site actually LIKE what they read there? REALLY?? They are delusional!
And if he reads there, I bet that Josh gets VERY upset about most of the things he reads….
And he does NOT deserve that!
And before anyone acuses ME of violating Josh’s privacy because I criticized his former girlfriend or complained about his management or record company, let me say that that is COMPLETELY LUDICROUS.
I have never known ANYTHING about Josh’s private life, NOR did I ever “investigate” anything about it, like OTHER fans did. I commented on public companies that I was a customer of, pubic events, movies, photo shoots, and things I witnessed myself…. and none of that is private stuff in Josh’s life.
I never tried to find out where he lived or GO to his house, fling myself on his parent’s car, try to make friends with his parents or band members or management or mods of his boards or employees of his record company, try to crash his parties or camp out in the lobby of his hotel or try to find out where he was…. YES FOLKS– fans have done ALL of those things. And those are the things that violate his privacy, NOT anything that I have done.
YES, an insane person emailed things to me years ago and I was a FOOL to believe this person, but again, I never did anything to violate Josh’s or his family’s privacy.
And I am FED UP with being accused of doing such things and of being constantly maligned on Ozy’s blog by hateful creeps.
I’m angry… I guess you can tell…
And part of the reason is that Josh is LOSING FANS because of “fans” like those at Ozy’s site… because they either believe their CRAP or they can’t stand fans being hateful to other fans.
So JUST STOP!
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And so, even though Ozy maintains an entire thread there maligning ME and my site, with page after page of cruelty, I am SO FED UP with the crap over there that I vow NEVER to mention that site here AGAIN.
I will not delete the posts of anyone who wishes to comment here, but I request that you do like I plan to do– comment on good places, not places where idiots and creeps hang out.
I told someone in an email that I plan to do that and here are some comments from the email I got as a response:
“They have way too much time on their hands and they stalk his every move, that makes me cringe. ….. You are right you need to stay away from there as I do, they are poison. … Josh is a funny and sweet guy and I am sure if he knew that this sort of thing is going on he wouldn’t be happy either. You also need to let go of the past, ignore the haters and get on with your life.”
YES, that is what people think… I am NOT the only one fed up with that site.
And YES, I was STUPID to ever get caught up here trying to defend myself and Josh and other fans against their malicious posts. A DAMN FOOL. Because they will never change.
I should be spending my time on better things!!!!!
I apologize to my members here for all my outrage and responses to that site… I will IGNORE from now on!!!
For Sprog/Cherry:
That’s just fine Cherry/Sprog. You failed to tell us who had wrong information and slinks off away. Nobody slinks off because WE know this blog is about SPECULATION! We didn’t malign anyone either, as Louise and you proclaim. I reposted some of the comments you made about in the Lakers thread.
I find it odd that Louise says she has this wonderful happy site devoted to Josh Groban and yet, it is a sight where Louise calls other fans Delusional, stupid and so on and so forth. What does that say about Louise? No wonder fans are turned off. Also Does Louise think Josh appreciate her claiming he is gay? I kinda doubt he does. I think he frowns upon most things Louise and the people visiting from the same location as Josh, are his own people like his manager and his tour assistant going into the Pub and copying all the crap you spew.
Oh, I almost forgot~~~~JMO~~~~~
2/2/12
For the 100th time, Louise is making clear her distaste for my blog. Now she is using her very stupid poll to try and shore up some major slippage in subscribers.
She claims she’s not talking about MY blog because she didn’t bring up MY name in the poll but everyone and his brother knows who she has assassinated yet again!
Yep, I think it is hilarious too!
The things fans say about Josh and his tweets or comments or actions are just plain ridiculous and laughable sometimes!
And nobody has a sense of humor anymore… they SHOULD since Josh has one!
And you know what is really funny? This poll is a general poll about comments made on the internet… not just the comments at one blog. I have seen many statements about Josh being a drunkard on twitter, Facebook, FOJG, etc…. so I was trying to get opinions from the visitors of this site about what they think of the situation.
“…I think this is fun…so would Josh..”
Hee hee…. I hope I put a smile on his face….
{However, the “blog” is called in 2 of the answers in the poll. Twitter is not, FOJG is not but my “Blog” IS!}
From her ” POLL” Choices for voting:
“That blog allowing such statements should be TAKEN DOWN. They are LIBELING Josh!”
“Where are people saying that? Josh’s lawyer should send the owner of the blog a letter.”
See, Tripped up again, Louise.
In her blog page maligning me and lying about me, Ozy has posted this and she says it is MY email:
““That Twitter name is just a set up. WBR, Qprime and his parents are probably paying April Bowlby to provide the pictures and someone else is tweeting for her. That’s probably what they did last year. It worked because the fans who live in Lalaland and the paparazzi websites bought the story. You know they can’t tell the world who Josh really is so the publicists (They disgust me!) have to set up these scenarios. How come he didn’t start following her earlier? That account has been active for quite some time. “
Sorry Ozy, that is NOT MY EMAIL. I never said such a STUPID thing in my entire life.
QPrime and Josh’s parents PAYING April for photos? How ludicrous– I’m sure they can all the photos they want of her for FREE. (lol) So that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
And the Grobans would NOT DO THAT!!
Stop SLAMMING JOSH’S PARENTS in your blog by posting some EVIL person’s accusations in your blog!
And STOP ATTACKING ME and posting CRAP and saying it’s my words!!
I am about an inch away from going to the POLICE about your blog, and I am NOT KIDDING.
Okay Louise, here is what I will do. I have asked that Lauren provide me with the proof Via IPs that the emails are your. As I have your IPs, I can make the comparison and either prove true or false. If Lauren can’t provide it, I’ll send copied to Qprime and ask them to verify the IP . I will send them the 1′s I have for you. Either way, the truth will be known!
Until then, I will HIDE the emails.
Louise, grow up and get a frigging grip! It didn’t write the emails so back down off your character assassination of me and my blog.
Why? Because I’m tired of people acting like I am some horrible person for thinking what 500,000 OTHER people have thought over the years.
SICK of it.
Josh does NOT act like a straight guy– and never HAS. People SEE that about him and then draw conclusions. Just like me.
I really don’t care how many times Josh tweets about liking boobs or how many times he says he’s not gay. That means nothing. Because he’s ALL TALK AND NO ACTION. Oh wait… I take that back– he has plenty of actions– all indicating something else….
If Josh’s entire group of “perfect fans who post on the internet” want to live in a fantasy world not based in reality, well, I can’t help that.
I, on the other hand, want to live in the REAL WORLD based on facts.
If Josh wants to keep his real private life a secret, then it’s HIS BUSINESS. But that does not mean that I should be shunned and maligned and bullied for my views, shared by thousands of other people.
And you know what is ridiculous? For YEARS I kept my mouth shut publicly, out of respect for Josh– because I knew that is what he would want. I only talked about this with a handful of FRIENDS — PRIVATELY. Then a bunch of evil bullies decided to destroy me and posted all my private thoughts in public. They didn’t give a damn about JOSH or what he would want– they only cared about destroying me and my family.
And this is STILL going on– I haven’t talked about this subject hardly EVER here over the last 3 years– and when I do it’s because OTHER PEOPLE bring it up or start maligning me about my opinions. Ozy is the WORST– she’s OBSESSED with proving Josh is not gay and that he has this stash of “secret girlfriends” somewhere….and because most of her “friends” want to have sex with Josh, they are more than happy to go along with her nasty disrespectful blog– that posts lies about me– that people believe! Her latest lie is that I said that Josh’s parents hired a beard for Josh.
Get this thru your head everyone: I NEVER said that Josh’s parents hired a beard for Josh. NEVER. And I never even IMPLIED that. And I wouldn’t say that believe I DON’T BELIEVE any such thing! Josh’s parents wouldn’t do that!!! If you read somewhere that I said it, it was MADE UP CRAP spread around in OTHER people’s emails or at OZY’S SITE.
Right now I am pretty much disgusted with Josh’s LOONEY and hateful fan base.
No wonder Josh has to getting stinkin’ drunk with Sake before vlogging to his fans– they are an embarrassment!
Observations:
1) In the last 10 years, Josh has only had one girlfriend and even as far as her, he seemed completely disinterested in her– never mentioned her unless asked, never showed any affection towards her… all photos were “posed” for the camera.
2) Almost all of Josh’s friends are gay or lesbian. Yes, I know he must work with many gay people because he’s in the entertainment industry, but he chooses to hang out in the gay community when he’s not working.
3) Attends parties at Perez Hilton’s house, where all the males in attendence appear to be gay. Sorry, a straight guy doesn’t usually go to a party with all gay men.
4) Wears clothes like…. pretty scarves, as on his last album cover. Sorry, I have never known any straight men who wear such things, and my husband hasn’t either.
5) Is very fond of wearing extremely tight pants that leave nothing to the imagination. How many straight guys do that? I don’t see any, even in the music business. (But I don’t follow all musicians of course)
6) Is extremely secretive about his personal life, especially when it comes to dating. Sorry, I don’t see any straight guys trying to hide girlfriends, or being extremely secretive like that.
7) Dancing and singing and musical theatre… anyone who is knowledgeable knows that 80% (or more) of males in those areas are gay.
8) Chooses to work with many gay celebrities and musicians… such as Rufus Wainwright on his last album, who Josh described in an interview as a “good friend”.
9) Josh and Nico Muhly barhopping in NYC. Yes, a straight guy and a gay guy decide to go barhopping together…. happens all the time, right? Yeah right….lol…
10) The few times that Josh has been seen with women over the last few years have obviously been staged for the media and paps…
11) WB Records has targeted me as an “enemy”… and why is that folks? I’ll tell you why: because I see thru all the CRAP they try to force down the throats of the clueless fans of Josh Groban… their goal: sell records to HORNY TEENAGERS (or anyone else who wants to screw Josh).
12) My husband says: his general demeanor, and having a little white dog (When he found out about the dag he said: “I rest my case”…LOL…) NOTE: My husband is NOT PREJUDICED against gay people. Not at ALL.
Ack…. I could go on, but that’s enough….
Because I’m tired of talking about this BULLSHIT… I got better things to do.
But I posted it because, as Ozy and her minions say: “It’s all my opinions and I’m just having a little FUN here.”
Taken from the Pub. 1/14/12
But you know what? I don’t give a damn if every single email I EVER sent was made public. Because I did nothing wrong. My speculations are that– just speculations and NOTHING I said is disrespectful to Josh. NOTHING. Things posted by bullies in Ozy’s blog are 100 times more horrible and disrespectful than ANYTHING I ever said.
And for the 1000th time, I did NOT say anything bad about Josh’s mother! SHE banned my pillows and HURT me deeply. And guess what? I forgave her long ago. Your private emails have proved otherwise, Louise.
Because I am a forgiving person….
So post away bullies!
Yippeeeeeeeee!!
I don’t think Josh Groban gives a DAMN what I thought about his sexual orientation, one way or the other.
Louise’s email about April B, Twitter account:
Her comment regarding April Bowlby’s account on Twitter:
Hidden until the truth of the writer is known and I can post it here. OZY
Louise had this to say about my blog in the Lauren Y. Thread at the Pub. You can find it in the Famous Grobanites file over there.:
“It is interesting to note that the primary purpose of Ozy’s blog is to promote the idea that Josh has girlfriends and to malign ME. That’s the ONLY two threads people post in there: the “Pretty Women” thread and the “Let’s Malign Louise and her Forum” thread. Think about it folks!” Louise Miller 1/11/12
Louise~ Please remember that I had started this blog well over a year before I had the PRETTY WOMAN blog! That was started when Josh started dating April B.
As far as the thread about the Pub, you asked for it when you refused to leave my ladies alone. You were copying and pasting comments from here over to the Pub to ridicule women who post here, including ME! So, I gave them a place where they could post responses to you that wouldn’t get deleted.
Do you you want to know how long I have had this blog up and running? Long enough for VoiceTranced to have come in a said a quick hello and wishing me luck with it. Think about that for awhile Louise.
If I were gay I’d come out loud and proud many xmas’s ago. RT @MajorPhilebrity This Christmas, I want @JoshGroban to come out of the closet.
Louise yet again makes some odd claims about my blog yet again! So what else is new?
Jackie hits the nail on the head and Louise dodges another fact yet again!:
The difference is you have speculated that he is and the guy on Twitter wishes that he was. No?
Anon, not only has she convinced herself that he is gay but she has convinced herself that he in no way ever says he is heterosexual. So in her mind he is doing a “don’t ask , don’t tell” kind of thing. So then it is ok if she implys he is gay all the time. That is not being disrespectful or saying he is a liar.
She drags parts of out posts over there all the time and proclaims loudly that we are horrible for saying JG is not very honest about his love life. How dare we call him a liar??? She has proclaimed this loudly on the front page of the Pub.
Well, no, he doesn’t have a t-shirt saying “I’m straight” but I think has certainly professed he is straight -well as much as anyone does. So we are terrible for saying we think he hides girlfriends but she is just being honest and supportive by saying he is gay?? It’s all very convoluted thinking.
This is not a post that I am happily putting up but it seems that I am forced to for the sake of my own members of this site.
Many of you know Louise and the Pub from the War several years back.
But Louise is back to character assassinations again and this time, she has chosen the posters of this blog in order to do her own “Twist and Shout” on. :
Taken from the Pub on 7/1/11: Opening comments are Louise’s.
Josh is not “insulting” anyone with his behavior– he’s one of the nicest guys on the planet! He’s just keeping certain things private! Geez…. this gets SO old!
Although I DO agree with the part about JJ –that Josh has not altered his behavior because some fans didn’t like her. That theory is sheer lunacy… I’m sure Josh listens to his fans’ opinions about his music, but I seriously doubt he will let fans run his personal life!

“Nothing like wasting my time with this topic, but I’ve worked hard this week, so what the hell…lol…
I truly think those peeps at Ozy’s site are smoking something…”~ Louise.
Now I don’t live at this site as I know the ladies here are adults and everyone seems to get along. I pop in twice a day and make sure things are fine. But tonight, before trying to go to bed, I found this post in my moderation folder from all things Sparkley, the poster that Louise was slamming and laughing at.:
However, please give me until tomorrow to set up a post about it so that any warring going on will be kept out of this thread. Not everyone who comes here and reads want to get involved in a written tug of war over Louise’s nonsense. If the audience want to read about what is happening between The Pub and JGN (Josh Groban New) then they can but many do not so I will keep the written sparing on a separate post.
ATS~ Also keep in mind that if you leave and quit posting, Louise has won. Keep in mind that she is banned from this site so she can’t come here and post she can only post at the Pub.
No, I can’t stop you from coming over and reading but you are looking for trouble and you have picked the wrong site and the wrong person to ridicule. You still can not post over there so please don’t try. :-$
Leave my blog and my posters out of your twisted entertainment. If you persist, then understand that you have picked a fight with me. You started with Lauren and now you have decided to pick on someone else as Lauren isn’t around.
I have always asked my posters not to bring your name up on my site as I didn’t want to start any trouble with you. But if it is trouble you want, I can dish it out, Louise.
But I’m sure you know that. >.<
Ozy
It would see that it was a great idea to repost my response to Louise over here as she manually blabberized it. Now at least the audience can see what she blabberized.
The comments are open. Ozy